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		<title>By: guoqk112135</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 11:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what does 'biodiesel' mean??</description>
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		<title>By: www.AGUA-LUNA.com (Consultant)</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 05:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 1 Bio truck we do currently run on Biodiesel is a 1999 Dodge truck (we have 1 the runs 100% on water, 2 EVs &amp; 1 running on Ethanol). But all Cummins engines were modified from the factory to run on BioD since around 1992 without any modification.

Biofuel is recognized by both the US Environmental Protection Agency &amp; Department of Energy as an alternative fuel, &amp; qualifies for mandated programs under the Clean Air Act Amendments &amp; the Environmental Protection Act of 1992 (EPAct).

USDA Clears Air with Biofuel: Buses &amp; other diesel-burning vehicles run cleaner if they mix biofuel with regular diesel fuel, said the US Department of Agriculture at a biofuel fuel seminar at a USDA research center.

Conversely most major automotive manufacturers (Chrysler, Ford, &amp; General Motors, etc) recommend the use of bio fuels, &amp; nearly every car manufacturer in the world approves ethanol blends in their warranty coverage.

In fact you’re probably even driving a Flex Fuel car &amp; didn't even know it.

The trick is finding fuel.

I've been producing biofuel for about 8 years now, it's not extremely difficult. Basically you need general household ingredients, a processor (or still for ethanol) &amp; some used oil. Blend it, let separate, screen &amp; use. I complied a guide a while back to help walk you threw the process step by step, just email me or check out..


•1 liter of new vegetable oil, whatever the supermarket sells as cooking oil 
•200 ml of methanol, 99+% pure 
•lye catalyst -- either potassium hydroxide (KOH) or sodium hydroxide (NaOH) 
•blender or mini-processor 
•scales accurate to 0.1 grams, preferably less -- 0.01 grams is best 
•measuring beakers for methanol &amp; oil 
•half-liter translucent white HDPE (#2 plastic) container with bung &amp; screw-on cap 
•2 funnels to fit the HDPE container 
•2-litre PET bottle (water or soft-drinks bottle) for settling 
•two 2-litre PET bottles for washing 
•duct tape 
•Thermometer

Use the "Methoxide the easy way" method -- it's also the safe way. Here's how to do it.
Measure out 200 ml of methanol &amp; pour it into the half-liter HDPE container via the funnel. Methanol also absorbs water from the atmosphere so do it quickly &amp; replace the lid of the methanol container tightly. Don't be too frightened of methanol, if you're working at ordinary room temperature &amp; you keep it at arm's length you won't be exposed to dangerous fumes. 

Carefully add the lye to the HDPE container via the second funnel. Replace the bung &amp; the screw on the cap tightly.
Shake the container a few times -- swirl it round rather than shaking it up &amp; down. The mixture gets hot from the reaction. If you swirl it thoroughly for a minute or so five or six times over a period of time the lye will completely dissolve in the methanol, forming sodium methoxide or potassium methoxide. As soon as the liquid is clear with no undissolved particles you can begin the process.
The more you swirl the container the faster the lye will dissolve. With NaOH it can take from overnight to a few hours to as little as half-an-hour with lots of swirling (but don't be impatient, wait for ALL the lye to dissolve). Mixing KOH is much faster; it dissolves in the methanol more easily than NaOH &amp; can be ready for use in 10 minutes.

Using a blender. Use a spare blender you don't need or get a cheap secondhand one -- cheap because it might not last very long, but it will get you going until you build something better.
Check that the blender seals are in good order. Make sure all parts of the blender are clean &amp; dry &amp; that the blender components are tightly fitted.
Pre-heat the oil to 55 deg C (130 deg F) &amp; pour it into the blender.
With the blender still switched off, carefully pour the prepared methoxide from the HDPE container into the oil.
Secure the blender lid tightly &amp; switch on. Lower speeds should be enough. Blend for at least 20 minutes.
Using a mini-processor. Follow the instructions below &amp; improvise where necessary -- there are many ways of building a processor like this.
Proceed with processing as above, maintain temperature at 55 deg C (130 deg F), process for one hour.

www AGUA-LUNA com 

Hope this helped, feel free to contact me personally if you have any questions if you’d like assistance in making your first self sufficient steps, I’m willing to walk you step by step threw the process. I’ve written several how-to DIY guides available at  www agua-luna com on the subject. I also offer online &amp; on-site workshops, seminars &amp; internships to help others help the environment.


Dan Martin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 1 Bio truck we do currently run on Biodiesel is a 1999 Dodge truck (we have 1 the runs 100% on water, 2 EVs &#038; 1 running on Ethanol). But all Cummins engines were modified from the factory to run on BioD since around 1992 without any modification.</p>
<p>Biofuel is recognized by both the US Environmental Protection Agency &#038; Department of Energy as an alternative fuel, &#038; qualifies for mandated programs under the Clean Air Act Amendments &#038; the Environmental Protection Act of 1992 (EPAct).</p>
<p>USDA Clears Air with Biofuel: Buses &#038; other diesel-burning vehicles run cleaner if they mix biofuel with regular diesel fuel, said the US Department of Agriculture at a biofuel fuel seminar at a USDA research center.</p>
<p>Conversely most major automotive manufacturers (Chrysler, Ford, &#038; General Motors, etc) recommend the use of bio fuels, &#038; nearly every car manufacturer in the world approves ethanol blends in their warranty coverage.</p>
<p>In fact you’re probably even driving a Flex Fuel car &#038; didn&#8217;t even know it.</p>
<p>The trick is finding fuel.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been producing biofuel for about 8 years now, it&#8217;s not extremely difficult. Basically you need general household ingredients, a processor (or still for ethanol) &#038; some used oil. Blend it, let separate, screen &#038; use. I complied a guide a while back to help walk you threw the process step by step, just email me or check out..</p>
<p>•1 liter of new vegetable oil, whatever the supermarket sells as cooking oil<br />
•200 ml of methanol, 99+% pure<br />
•lye catalyst &#8212; either potassium hydroxide (KOH) or sodium hydroxide (NaOH)<br />
•blender or mini-processor<br />
•scales accurate to 0.1 grams, preferably less &#8212; 0.01 grams is best<br />
•measuring beakers for methanol &#038; oil<br />
•half-liter translucent white HDPE (#2 plastic) container with bung &#038; screw-on cap<br />
•2 funnels to fit the HDPE container<br />
•2-litre PET bottle (water or soft-drinks bottle) for settling<br />
•two 2-litre PET bottles for washing<br />
•duct tape<br />
•Thermometer</p>
<p>Use the &#8220;Methoxide the easy way&#8221; method &#8212; it&#8217;s also the safe way. Here&#8217;s how to do it.<br />
Measure out 200 ml of methanol &#038; pour it into the half-liter HDPE container via the funnel. Methanol also absorbs water from the atmosphere so do it quickly &#038; replace the lid of the methanol container tightly. Don&#8217;t be too frightened of methanol, if you&#8217;re working at ordinary room temperature &#038; you keep it at arm&#8217;s length you won&#8217;t be exposed to dangerous fumes. </p>
<p>Carefully add the lye to the HDPE container via the second funnel. Replace the bung &#038; the screw on the cap tightly.<br />
Shake the container a few times &#8212; swirl it round rather than shaking it up &#038; down. The mixture gets hot from the reaction. If you swirl it thoroughly for a minute or so five or six times over a period of time the lye will completely dissolve in the methanol, forming sodium methoxide or potassium methoxide. As soon as the liquid is clear with no undissolved particles you can begin the process.<br />
The more you swirl the container the faster the lye will dissolve. With NaOH it can take from overnight to a few hours to as little as half-an-hour with lots of swirling (but don&#8217;t be impatient, wait for ALL the lye to dissolve). Mixing KOH is much faster; it dissolves in the methanol more easily than NaOH &#038; can be ready for use in 10 minutes.</p>
<p>Using a blender. Use a spare blender you don&#8217;t need or get a cheap secondhand one &#8212; cheap because it might not last very long, but it will get you going until you build something better.<br />
Check that the blender seals are in good order. Make sure all parts of the blender are clean &#038; dry &#038; that the blender components are tightly fitted.<br />
Pre-heat the oil to 55 deg C (130 deg F) &#038; pour it into the blender.<br />
With the blender still switched off, carefully pour the prepared methoxide from the HDPE container into the oil.<br />
Secure the blender lid tightly &#038; switch on. Lower speeds should be enough. Blend for at least 20 minutes.<br />
Using a mini-processor. Follow the instructions below &#038; improvise where necessary &#8212; there are many ways of building a processor like this.<br />
Proceed with processing as above, maintain temperature at 55 deg C (130 deg F), process for one hour.</p>
<p>www AGUA-LUNA com </p>
<p>Hope this helped, feel free to contact me personally if you have any questions if you’d like assistance in making your first self sufficient steps, I’m willing to walk you step by step threw the process. I’ve written several how-to DIY guides available at  www agua-luna com on the subject. I also offer online &#038; on-site workshops, seminars &#038; internships to help others help the environment.</p>
<p>Dan Martin</p>
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		<title>By: Nata T</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nata T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 12:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>many generations</description>
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		<title>By: linlyons</title>
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		<dc:creator>linlyons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 20:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ummm,  how many cars are there in  "a small country"?
1?  not too long.
everybody have a car?
never.
there's no way to produce the amount of fuel needed.

think about, going out and buying 10-20 tiimes as much food as you eat today.
also consider, that cooking oil, with that much demand, would get really expensive.
it really cannot be done.
there isn't enough farm land to produce the biodiesel that would be required.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ummm,  how many cars are there in  &#8220;a small country&#8221;?<br />
1?  not too long.<br />
everybody have a car?<br />
never.<br />
there&#8217;s no way to produce the amount of fuel needed.</p>
<p>think about, going out and buying 10-20 tiimes as much food as you eat today.<br />
also consider, that cooking oil, with that much demand, would get really expensive.<br />
it really cannot be done.<br />
there isn&#8217;t enough farm land to produce the biodiesel that would be required.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny Z</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnny Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 20:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which biodiesel? Methyl-ester, or WVO? Just depends on what they want to spend and produce. Most of the esters have to have an ample feedstock. In America, there are enough donut stores to run a small fleet of trucks, and the only reason they don't all ready use it is that B99 cost just as much, sometimes more, than petrodiesel. Some small countries could probably get away using a virgin feedstock from rapeseed or other oily seeds that could be converted.

A small continuous flow production plant cost around $120k. Most backyard producers just make their own batches with homemade appleseek reactors made out of electric hot water heater, pump, and filters.

WVO takes some retofitting a diesel engine to take the oil. Besides the $3k conversion, just the purchase of 5 micron filters to clean the oil. Not all oils are the same quality, so some oils require more filtering, and more energy to refine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which biodiesel? Methyl-ester, or WVO? Just depends on what they want to spend and produce. Most of the esters have to have an ample feedstock. In America, there are enough donut stores to run a small fleet of trucks, and the only reason they don&#8217;t all ready use it is that B99 cost just as much, sometimes more, than petrodiesel. Some small countries could probably get away using a virgin feedstock from rapeseed or other oily seeds that could be converted.</p>
<p>A small continuous flow production plant cost around $120k. Most backyard producers just make their own batches with homemade appleseek reactors made out of electric hot water heater, pump, and filters.</p>
<p>WVO takes some retofitting a diesel engine to take the oil. Besides the $3k conversion, just the purchase of 5 micron filters to clean the oil. Not all oils are the same quality, so some oils require more filtering, and more energy to refine.</p>
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		<title>By: boy jason lunday darkness smarts</title>
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		<dc:creator>boy jason lunday darkness smarts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 19:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1 hour it takes</description>
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