Many women say men are irrelevant and not needed.
One feminist misandrist said “a woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle.”
Since many feminists say that men are superfluous to women’s needs, then explain why men have been responsible for human’s greatest inventions?
Inventions by men:
Cars
Airplanes
Computers
Internet
Ships/Boats
Highways
Bridges
Homes/Apartments
Skyscrapers
Space Flight
Satellites
Western Philosophy
Astronomy
Physics
Cures and treatments to innumerable diseases
Environmentalist inventions (hybrid technology, alternate fuel sources, solar power, hydro-electric power, etc.)
Arts (the world’s greatest artists throughout history have been men, the world’s greatest musicians and composers, directors, cinemetographers, actors, and writers)
Sports
Fertilization of the ovary
And I’m sure many women here either find use or partake in most of men’s creations listed above.
So feminists, why are men useless and superfluous again?
Nice try, but civilization itself is a creation by both men and women, not solely women.
Agriculture, on the otherhand was also started by men. The majority of farmers throughout the world today are men.
ka1227: True, the arts, physics, philosophy, and astronomy are not “inventions.” I realize that. I was more or less adding them because these are fields where men have overwhelmingly contributed the most. However, you can say that philosophy, astronomy, and physics were STARTED by men (but not invented). The premise is still the same (of men creating it).
Also, KA1227, “fertilization of the ovary” may not be an invention, but it IS a contribution from men that is necessary to keep the human species and civilization going. Which still follows the same premise of this question — are men really worthless and unnecessary?
You seem angry that I brought this (relevant) issue up.
And my mistake, it should say “fertilization of the egg.”
Inventions by women:
agriculture
civilization
“Anonymous” was a woman.
well men nowadays seem to think i no everything
Just so we can feel stronger lol. But we all need each other and that’s the bottom line.
ughhh, your question makes me nauseous…there’s nothing worst than extremists
My, my, my….. I ‘m not a feminist! I love males from babies to old grandpas. Women need men and men need women. Why take on the feminists in an argument? Stay in the company of women who appreciate you.
Men aren’t irrelevant and not needed, and they’re certainly not useless. Just because women want to be regarded as human beings doesn’t mean that men can’t be regarded as human beings anymore.
I’m not a feminist even though there have been some rough times in my life. I noticed you left out a few other things men do, like mow the lawn, take out the trash, wash clothes, stay near to the sick bed for assistance just to name a few. That fertilizing of the ovary really got my funny bone going. I think you and many other men have created quite an enjoyable life style for yourselves.
I don’t think either gender is better than the other.
Fine work…
Women don’t appreciate all that men have done. We always point out their fine points. Like making sandwiches, washing dishes, and mopping floors for example.
And let us not forget T&A…
Your statement about men inventing more is true. But you have to consider the fact that until recently, woman did not have equal opportunities to invent. They were often denied equal education, money, and resources. In fact, a female inventor during those times would’ve been considered a joke.
Regardless of the past, both men and women are equally important for the future advancement of society.
I read Irina Dunn interviewed (of the famous “fish needs a bicycle” comment). Actually, she took that line from a male author. The original quote was:
“Man needs religion like a fish needs a bicycle.”
I don’t think she is a misandrist in real life though. If I remember correctly, she had to read this text for some college assignment. She just changed the phrase a little, which at the time she thought was kind of funny, and it soon took off.
Now I’m no expert modern-day feminism, but I would bet most modern-day feminists would argue that the only reason men can be credited with so many inventions is because women were prevented from receiving an eductation for almost all of recorded history. Thanks to the oppressive male hierarchy.
I also think most modern-day feminists would acknowledge that the man is necessary for fertilization. But that’s probably about the extent of the credit they will give us. lol.
Incidentally, one of my ex-girlfriends believed (probably still believes) that men have no use in society except for her own pleasure.
She was not a feminist or even political; however, I can see how it would not be a far jump for her to make.
Men are people just as women are.
Neither gender is superior. They are complementary. Each has unique strengths and weaknesses. When compatibly paired, the pair is greater than the sum of its parts.
Agriculture was started by the females in tribal societies (while the males were hunting animals). Cultivating food was found to be more reliable that gathering from the surrounding environment.
Physics and astronomy are not “inventions.” Machines and buildings are inventions. Astronomy and physics are sciences which attempt to explain what can be observed in the physical world.
Art is not an invention either. It is a form of communication, an expression of thought and emotion.
And I don’t think human men “invented” fertilization of the egg. It happens in many life forms. Eggs are fertilized, not ovaries.
Next time think before clicking the submit button.
EDIT: Not angry at all. I’m just really tired of the supremacist attitudes that have been so prevalent here lately. On both sides. You were so quick to defend your gender…which made it seem like you were suggesting male supremacy … but you made a bunch of careless errors (ironic, eh?).
Ah come on, Lycra! You men are good for some things! Let me think; I’ll come up with something!
But seriously, no one on this Forum says we don’t need guys.
Relax and enjoy life!
Women invented a lot of the more modern technologies you mention, as well.
And the vast majority of feminists do not say, or even think, that men are useless. You need to learn more about feminism.
As for that quote, it means that women do not really need men to support them financially, that women should realize that we don’t *need* men to survive, as individuals, that we can support ourselves.
Of course men and women need each other, for all kinds of reasons; love, reproduction, friendship, sex. But women no longer need men to “keep” them.
they have been burned by men, or hate the way men have treated women in the past. By wanting to be equal so hard, they become less femine. They end up being as big an asshole as the men they hate so much.
They treat men of the present the way women were treated. Pay back by proxy.
I was told to treat women like a lady, but when i have done so, so many women say ” i dont need a damn man to open my door”
when will people realize a few key things…
1) both sexes are needed, worthy, neccessary, and contribute to society
2) argueing that “my sex is better than your sex” is SOO 2nd grade…
3) feminist =/= misandrist
4) overgeneralization is merely a way to spread hate
No need to get caught up with extremist views or count who has contributed the most to society. There are men and women whose comments are over the top in terms of not needing each other, they forget that it took a man and a woman to bring them into this world, so that they could be able to talk all this smack lol
i agree i opened a door for a women the other day and she spit on me feminist treat men like garbage
To society, both men and women are necessary. To an individual woman, an individual man whose function is romantic is merely a fringe benefit — however, if the woman is like me, he isn’t beneficial at all.
I think we are equals and should be treated as EQUALS…
I’m not sure who you’re talking to but I certainly do not think men are useless. You may just be interpreting feminist ideals in the wrong way. It’s not about getting rid of men it’s equality and respect.
Because feminists are ungrateful idiots. Without men, our society would still be primitive.
Hilarious. I am a liberal and a feminist. I need you like my cat need a bicycle.
“a woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle.” That was said in reference to dating and marriage. It was said back in the 70’s when single women were being pressured to marry. It has nothing to do with the contribution men have made to society.
Some women may say that men are not needed, worthless, unnecessary, and contribute nothing to society; but not women who truly believe in equality. So I disagree, I don’t hear many if any feminists say those kinds of silly things about men, or women.
Some men say the same things or worse about women, and that’s divisive as well. Why so defensive? Why believe the worst about women, or feminists?
thank you men for inventing those things…
there..happy now?
now stop whining.
except for the last one…i dont need that whole fertilization of the ovary thing.